by Bob » Thu Dec 01, 2024 8:36 pm
Fascinating response. It is interesting that you are blaming women and minority groups for not being present when I know from talking to various people who were a big part of OS in the beginning, ended up feeling alienated by the group that came to dominate the park for just such attitudes. That argument is much like the argument made in Plessy Vs. Ferguson, where the chief justice believed that if African Americans felt inferior it was not because of the racist behavior but because they ALLOWED it to make them feel that way. Think about that.
It feels like you are being defensive because you are investing so much time into the occupation. That is totally understandable and you're probably correct that that video totally represents who is down there at the park or out in front of city hall. Now think about that. Why do you think that there are not more women and minorities in the park and out in front of city hall? Perhaps they do not feel welcome? Perhaps this movement is not really about oppressed people in general, but merely about the middle class, white, male population feeling what the rest of us have been feeling for centuries. There I said it.
And trust me, I was there, I did do outreach, which involved finding under represented people to join OS. That is how I know that many women and minorities did not feel welcome down there. All of you guys are kidding yourselves if you think that you are flawless. I am tired I being told that people who didn't feel welcomed and said something about it were being 'Divisive." Perhaps ignoring problems is divisive, I'm just saying. Perhaps if you guys figured out why women and minorities don't feel represented by you and tried to remedy that then more women and minorities would sit in with you? I don't know, just a thought.
I also think it's interesting that you criticized me for complaining about the video. You implied that I should shut up and do something about it. Well, I "do something about it" everyday of my life. Pointing out the problem is part of "doing something about it." Kinda like you guys sitting in lawn chairs in front of city hall with signs pointing out what's wrong with our country is pointing out a problem. But obviously you don't see that connection, much like you don't seem to see the connection between the lack of female presence and your own sexism.