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People don't set out to do bad and people's Earthly home isn't destined toward an eco-social mis-mash insanity where some ancient ethos dooms us. People learn good our home is being repaired slowly — perhaps the genius of the environmental movement is that they have convinced most people that dry rot is setting in faster than we are replacing the boards — and the godly doom sayers don't fool the majority or the minority. At OS's GA however majority mob rule reigns. The genius of our young generation sparking this revolution might think it can fashion a govt superior to the USA's original genius of being sure that a majority consensus is always balanced by a minority consensus. In the rush to get OS started in Sep and Oct on the model of OWS, the millenial generation failed to start with the best its elders had to offer. That best is being trashed by Congress the Supreme Court and Wall St. Now that NVC, Foreclosures, UOC, Education, and our new OSWGWHE Environmental working group are moving ahead, we must boldly confront the internal threat we face from a certain Democratic Party meddler who started the the Resolutions group. We must address the problem of the well conceived but badly executed CC group. And the threat of those who would hold secret meetings and form groups that divide us like the idea for a new outreach group, needs to be stopped. Here is not the place to praise Brother Carter for his work. Here is the place to explain in detail what we can do so that his work grows exponentially and that OS and the larger Occupy/ArabSpring, succeeds. Let's empower Tyler and Nathan to make our website connect Facebook with Forum.

Which facebook-forum connection are you talking about? We have talked about a few different things I think...

And for the record, I also oppose secret meetings, that's not at all what we're about.

Secret Meetings, Mob rule, misinformation, and more. I'm tried of your bullshit. You have violently yelled down facilitators at GA's, continue to email and call people after they've request to get off "your list", you have shown up at so called "secret meetings", and you refuse to acknowledge things based on the consensus. YOU CANNOT FORM A CONSENSUS OF ONE. We don't have to publicly record everything we within our personal lives. We have a right to privacy and being transparent doesn't mean violating that privacy or announcing to the world some of the plans we are making til we are ready. A lot of GOOD people are busting their asses, and you keep interfering by calling them into question or belittling them. I don't want people to read this forum and take you seriously anymore. You call yourself a "feminist" but last GA you showed up to............ yelling and interrupted the female facilitator telling her " YOUR JOB is to listen when a man when he's speaking". You have done more to damage this cause, than any single person i can recall by name, Chris Bradfield or Sea. You ask for people's real name then go by an alias. The time for illusions is ending.

"we must boldly confront the internal threat we face from a certain Democratic Party meddler who started the the Resolutions group." This sounds like a threat to me. For you to fixate on someone is not new, nor is it new for you to act out on your own perceptions of reality as fact. But for you to directly call someone out like you have here, that is a new low for you. I am not comfortable with your language here, Sea. Or Chris or whatever your real name is. What does "boldly" mean? Does it mean yelling and ranting like you do at ga's (which feels way more like an internal threat to most of us) or do you have something else in mind. This is alarming to me, just as your in-person behavior is alarming. Did you mean to say it like this?
BTW, if this is the usual level of discourse on the forum, I hope and pray that it is never linked to FB.

Sea:
The workgroup and committee meetings are open to all and are only be held secret from one person: YOU

And that is because you are dictatorial, abusive and intolerant. You refuse to follow the procedures of any meeting or GA. It appears that your ego requires that you yell and scream and demand that others do as you say and listen only to you. You need help buddy, and I strongly suggest you get it.

Why anyone would invite you to a meeting is completely beyond me. I would rather stick pins in my eyes than be in a meeting with you.

Nathan:

There are no secret meetings being held. There are workgroup and committee meetings being held all the time and there are often report backs to GA when something is there to report.

I encourage any workgroup, committee who would like their agenda destroyed, their meeting hijacked and to be subjected to the rantings, ravings and abuse of a person who refuses to follow the most basic mores of social interaction; by all means invite SEA to your meeting.

Ok, whatever you want to call it... "members only" or "unannounced" or anything where potential volunteers are prevented from getting involved, is a problem. If one person is causing problems then the group should deal with that person, instead of making it hard for others to get involved.

This is really getting ridiculous. There seriously are no secret meetings, if you can't follow the rules...don't expect people to willingly tell you when they're happening. No-one wants to be interrupted when trying to get things DONE. If you aren't being productive, you're being counterproductive and major hindrance to not only this movement but this revolution as a whole. Integrating Facebook and the forum is a terrible [if not godforsaken] idea, and quite frankly half the madness that is posted on here ("THE FORUM") would truly make our local occupy appear to be an even bigger joke than it's already perceived as.

I'll shoot myself in the foot before I push/vote for these two platforms to be integrated.

Ohhhh, so there are no "seret meetings", just meetings that nobody can find out about unless you invite them personally...

Stop acting like this secrecy thing is something I made up... I've had 2 different conversations with Cres now where he insisted on secret/private meetings, to "protect our strategy", and he called my viewpoint "idealistic". This is a real issue, I didnt just make it up.

Nathan wrote:Ohhhh, so there are no "seret meetings", just meetings that nobody can find out about unless you invite them personally...

Stop acting like this secrecy thing is something I made up... I've had 2 different conversations with Cres now where he insisted on secret/private meetings, to "protect our strategy", and he called my viewpoint "idealistic". This is a real issue, I didnt just make it up.

I wasn't even talking to you, and if you truly wanted to know when meetings were you would have been corresponding with more than just Cres and Ricky prior to this moment . I've been on our media team for just as long as everyone else and you've never corresponded with me for information...why don't you expand your network so you're never left out the loop? Then cop an attitude about not knowing what's going on.